INTERVIEW:
Ronan Dempsey on his play THE WORDS ARE THERE
● Hello Ronan, we’re thrilled that your play is coming to London, after it enjoyed outstanding success at Edinburgh Fringe festival, with multiple 5 Star reviews. What was the best part of that experience for you?
A: The best part was, when all was said and done and the money was raised, accommodation sorted and the media were in etc….we had an audience and we were doing the show and out of all the madness we had the purity, enjoyment and privilege of simply sharing a piece of theatre with an audience.
● The play powerfully explores a modern day taboo, male victims of domestic abuse. Is this a difficult subject to bring to the stage?
A: It was in a few ways Heather. I wanted to avoid being graphic with violence and abuse. I wanted to tell both sides of a story, to present a context of why abuse happens, I wanted to break the mould of a typical direct address one person show and reinvent it in some way and in terms of the solitude and silence that victims feel, I wanted the character to say as little as possible. In the end I got it down to only three words spoken live by the actor in 62 minutes.
● What was your starting point for writing the play?
A: There was a huge number of suicides that were happening in Ireland around 2018 and when I dug deeper into certain cases I found that men had taken their own lives because of horrendous domestic situations they were in, and rather than speak to someone they obviously felt like they couldn’t and chose to end their lives. Toxic attitudes in regard to expression of emotion are a huge reason for this.
● Please could you tell us a little bit about the story.
A: It’s a love story. We meet Mick and Trish and we witness this love story being born and we then navigate our way through the entirety of the relationship, discover the complexities that push people to self-destruct and pull others into their carnage. Relationship breakdowns are tragic especially when we see a great depth of love that once existed. Within all this, we spend time with Mick as he tries to rewrite the carnage. It’s very unique in its staging and style.
● What was the hardest thing about writing the play?
A: There were two things Heather, the first was the tragedy I read about in much of the research I did, real lives, real people and real tragic outcomes. The second was the theatrical side of it, in the way of trying to push myself out of my comfort zone to create something very interesting and innovative. But ultimately, getting the detail and tone right for the piece.
● Could you tell us a little about your background in theatre and how this has fed into this play.
A: Ah, I would have to say Paris Paris Paris. And when I say that I mean Ecole Jacques Lecoq! I originally trained as an actor in drama school. I then went on to study at Lecoq and it completely changed my perception of everything in terms of life, nature and theatre. I started to write a lot more and devise after I returned to Ireland. It was this discipline that forced me to take huge risks with work and break boundaries.
● You’re transferring it to The Hope Theatre in Islington. How did that come about?
A: Well, pre-covid we wanted to bring the show over but of course everything went askew. So when we were ready to move again, we looked for the right venue for us. Intimate, black box space and an appreciative and supportive team. We got all this at The Hope. Phil and the gang have set us up really well and we’re very excited to land over. WE LOVE LONDON!
● Will it be the same director and cast for the performances at The Hope Theatre?
A: Well I wrote and directed the piece myself and in terms of the cast, I’m in it… and I don’t want to give too much away, but in this one man show another cast member will “emerge”.....! It’s a nice little surprise.
● What do you hope will come from showing the play in London?
A: I suppose I want people to become a lot more aware of the subject matter and that somebody they know may be in this situation, or that someone who has experienced it won’t feel so alone or feel like they're crazy anymore.
● Finally, what is your favourite scene and why?
A: ooooh….Mick and Trish’s first kiss! It’s awkward, beautiful but also filthy! You have to come along to see why!!
THE WORDS ARE THERE by Ronan Dempsey
14 – 27 NOV
THE HOPE THEATRE
7.45PM & 3PM SATS
£10/£13/£16
Mick awaits Trish in his seaside bedsit in dreamy Bettystown, Ireland. They've agreed to start over again, so it's party time! Will it be bubbles for a happy ever after or will sparks fly? Life has left Mick speechless, but in his silence lies a story. Amidst childhood falsehoods, Mick sifts through fragmented memories as he struggles to find the words for a very important day.
The Words Are There sensitively but powerfully explores a modern day taboo subject. The play sold out at the Edinburgh Fringe, earning multiple 5 star reviews, was shortlisted for the prestigious Edinburgh Bobby Award and was named a Top 5 Edinburgh show by The List Magazine.
Developed as part of the Scene and Heard Festival of new work.
Originally produced by Karl Shiels/Laura Honan at Theatre Upstairs Dublin.