Sasha Wilson has the kind of accent that is easily mistaken for Canadian until she mentions that she grew up in the town next door to writer Louisa May Alcott, the author of ‘Little Women,’ right in the heart of New England. Her empathy and deep connection to ’Louisa’ is part of her makeup, especially as some of her experiences concur with those of Alcott’s heroine.
Her upcoming show LOUISA & JO (& ME) tells the story of LITTLE WOMEN and focuses on Jo March, the stand-in character for Alcott herself. It’s a semi-autobiographical novel about Louisa and her sisters growing up under the shadow of the Civil War. At the same time Sasha has entwined the play with something about her own life, adding further depth to the production.
The first questions are about how lockdown affected Sasha and the development of the show. “I’ve been growing things in the garden” she says, “it’s been an interesting year for a great deal of introspection”. It reinforced her decision as an artist that she should tell a story that relates to her home and her own childhood in a way that was personal. “Less focus on hoping to get something out of it in terms of industry and more towards just being a woman trying to tell a story.”
Growing up in the next town to Louisa made Sasha feel she was in her “circle of friends”. Not just because of physical proximity, she “wrote Jo March for me because I was having a hard time” says Sasha. Her show contains a faithful adaptation of Louisa’s text but has also now become a conjuring of Sasha’s childhood. Due to lockdown Sasha has not been able to get back to America for eighteen months which made her understand that “you don’t realize what you have until you can’t have it”. Presenting the story of Little Women has allowed Sasha to “get back home” and use her own memories of life “as a gateway”.
Sasha runs her company OUT OF THE FOREST along with real life partner Joseph Cullen. Previous work for the company includes two Award winning plays CALL ME FURY and BURY THE HATCHET. The feedback on the plays has been phenomenal and has taught Sasha to approach “everything with a good sense of humour.” “We can be quite serious having come from a drama setting and then we’re going into emotional places; humour allows audiences to breath and process what they’ve been feeling.” She explains that music also feeds into that as it comments on the piece of theatre. Live folk music is clearly one of the trademarks to the company’s work and helps to tell the story in a unique way. “The company is giving historical facts but at the same time asking themselves ‘where are you in this work’” says Sasha.
Whilst the company explored old murder ballads for BURY THE HATCHET the inspiration usually comes from folk adaptations of the late nineties and noughties, the stuff of Sasha’s adolescence. “I’ve always been very interested in folk music” says Sasha. “My dad’s family is Irish, and I listened to a load of Irish folk music”. She also used to buy CDs of world music, Muddy Waters, Bluegrass “that type of thing” and all of that fermented into her musical tastes.
VIDEO: SASHA WILSON with guitar accompanist DAVID LEOPOLD
The work of the company also brings women centre stage, so it seems apt to ask Sasha about her thoughts on feminism. “Ultimately feminism is about creating a space in which female voices can really sing” she explains. “There’s no putting them in a box, no putting the mute on them, they are just allowed to express their own truth in a way that is meaningful.” There is much to explore that Sasha has not lived through herself, but she uses her own experience to connect with others so that she can “see what we’ve got to share.” “It’s just about sharing your truth and making space for other people to have their space, so everyone’s voice has equal value in the room.”
Clearly there is also a strong feminist angle in LOUISA & JO (& ME), but Sasha insists that while she is remaining true to Louisa’s personal history as a woman, she is also dealing with those things that make us all human. “I’m a middle-class white female from Boston” Sasha admits “but the show is about what’s human and true about all of us; about growing up and how families are messed up, and how we learn to love our ‘messed up’”.
Louisa’s real life differs from the one portrayed in the book so it’s not a straight forward story. While Sasha is struggling with the historical facts of Louisa’s life, she also needs to structure a play “so that it’s satisfying”. “How do I remain true to Louisa and to what happened? How do I make it emotionally true if it can’t be true?” The example Sasha gives is that in real life Louisa’s sister portrayed as Beth did not see Meg get married because she had already died before the wedding took place, but in the book she does. Sasha offers a quote from Louisa:
‘I had a sad life, so I wrote jolly tales.’
“If it’s wish fulfilment, is it so wrong?” questions Sasha. Before Louisa skyrocketed to fame with LITTLE WOMEN, she wrote under the pseudonym 'AM Barnard' writing gothic thrillers filled with all things scandalous and unladylike.
“I don’t want to do her dirty, but I don’t love them all” admits Sasha. “Some are very much to my taste, a long love chase, very fun, very swashbuckling but what it does in far ranging adventure it lacks in interiority.” It was not what the world wanted, and Louisa’s publisher asked her to ‘write a girl’s novel’ instead, and that gave Louisa licence to go into the personal struggles of all of her family, focusing in on the home, on Orchard House and her own sister’s lives.
This thought is what led Sasha to the realisation about her reluctance to talk about her own life. “Why would anyone care about my history?” she questions “but then I realised it’s important because if these things have affected you, they have also affected other people.” It makes her wonder if it isn’t social conditioning that devalues home spun stories. “They don’t have as much pith and moment as a tale from the high seas, but they are about real experiences.”
Sasha has found that researching Louisa’s life has led to some interesting discoveries. “She (Louisa) is sort of reaching through the pages to me 150 years later which is a very interesting and illuminating experience; having a great artist as confidante, she’s sort of encouraging me along” says Sasha. One of the things that has impressed her is that Louisa served as a nurse during the Civil War. “But in the book, it is her father who gets sent” says Sasha. Not every detail will make it to the show as it might not fit with the narrative, but it does inform the show. Knowing that Louisa helped young men in the wards and is sitting by their bedside as they pass means that she appreciates why Jo has such “crotchety plucky vibes” in the novel, a kind of “I’m not letting anyone walk all over me” attitude.
There have been many films and television adaptations of Little Women. Sasha suggests that “when you see a particular adaptation loads and loads it’ll always be your favourite”. Although she loves the first Little Women ‘talkie’, starring Katherine Hepburn she grew up with the 1994 Gillian Anderson adaptation with Winona Ryder and Kirsten Dunst. She believes that every adaptation is great because they are all giving Jo agency in her own life but in this adaptation, Jo winds up with Professor Bhaer rather than Laurie. “He is this fatherly figure who can guide and show Jo how to grow and be bigger than she already is, whereas Laurie is all charm and fun and playing but doesn’t encourage her to be her greater self.” This has led to an exploration of ‘dad themes’ in the play. “Not having a handsome feature in his face but kind eyes” quotes Sasha. “It’s important that Professor Bhaer is not a young 30-year-old heart throb. I would take Gabriel burn in a tweed jacket any day of the week,” she adds with a grin. If anyone would like to know what Sasha’s partner might think to that remark, she has a comeback: “He wears a lot of tweed.”
Sasha is really looking forward to sharing the show with an audience. “It’s the magic of storytelling where you get to be in the same room as an audience: for 90 mins we’re going to be back in New England”. For someone who has not been able to get home for a while and who will be filming the show so that her Grandparents get to see it she’s really excited to share some “things with people who haven’t been able to get home either.”
Louisa & Jo (& Me)
Venue: Golden Goose Theatre, Camberwell SE5 ORR
Tuesday 6 July 2021 7:30 PM - Saturday 17 July 2021 7:30 PM
Author: SASHA WILSON
Director: HANNAH HAUER- KING
Guitar Accompanist: DAVID LEOPOLD
Lighting Design: HOLLY ELLIS
Stage Manager: ZOE MACKINNON
Company: OUT OF THE FOREST THEATRE