BARONS COURT THEATRE


INTERVIEW: Artistic Director Sharon Willems and Company Manager Leo Bacica (KIBO Productions)



“It is more about inviting audiences into the stories whether hyper-theatrical or hyper-real." Sharon Willems


Our inaugural interview with Sharon Willems was right at the start of KIBO’s residency at Barons Court Theatre (2021), when Willems was still finding out about the space and what it might hold for them. We return to find out more about the choices made and to meet Company Manager Leo Bacica. 

 

One of the ambitions was to expand the programming to more eclectic tastes, particularly featuring new stories from underrepresented groups.  These voices change all the time. Ten years ago, there was quite a lot of LGBT which felt almost revolutionary but it's more mainstream now.  Currently the theatre has been doing work with autistic people and transgenders.   The most recent production, DEAF AS A POST, aimed to show what it is like to have partial hearing loss and Willems is currently directing Rosamund Gravelle’s intriguing THREE QUEENS.  Set over one night when Lady Jane Grey is about to be executed, it’s a feminist play which seeks to put the focus on the women as individuals.  “We’re looking at the Queens as people, to show how events impacted on politics and relationships,” explains Willems, “it shows the ideals that these women are willing to die for”. 

 

The pair are also still keen to have more of an emphasis on works in translation and international artists. This is very close to Bacica’s ambitions, as a Romanian himself who believes that multiple ethnicities can have a common culture. “I feel I’m a Londoner, but I don’t feel British.”  He’s been working in London since 2011 and has been flirting with various aspects of theatre. His route into the profession began when he studied technical engineering and started a summer job in a movie studio in Bucharest. When he came to England, he started work as a theatre technician.  Creatively, he has been finding his feet as a director and is currently interested in a 19th- century Romanian script which has a whopping 12 characters. It’s in the pipeline to be produced early next year.

 

Bacica is also a philosophy graduate and likes challenging theatre that pushes the boundaries.  “I saw Work.Txt four times, at the Bunker, two runs at Soho Theatre and once in Edinburgh” smiles Bacica, “it’s a play without actors entirely performed by the audience; I think it’s a work of genius.” He’s a fan of audience participation and volunteered twice, he’s no shrinking violet.  “When I’m directing stuff,” says Bacica, “I always think of the audience and what their part in the play is, it’s not theatre without the audience.” He quotes from the musical Cabaret with a mischievous grin:  “A theatre without an audience it’s just mental breakdown.”   Formerly Bacica worked on many cabaret shows and he loves a tongue in cheek commentary. “I’m pedantic about etymology and the word for theatre refers to the watching not the performing.” Bacica is passionate about community.

 

“That element of community has an implication that we’re not paying attention to the quality” adds Bacica, “that is not in our case, we care about the quality of the work; there’s no mutual exclusion between community and quality”. KIBO have been reaching out to locals and to people interested in theatre, encouraging new audiences and offering special concessions. NHS and Ukrainians go free at Barons Court. “We’re building a really nice relationship with a theatre in Kiev and we’re trying to get some shows over, but right now we like to meet virtually on zoom,” adds Willems.

 

Willems and Bacica both agree that some people need more encouragement and they have set up the Sunday Fix to bring creatives together and to share knowledge.   It’s been very successful. Both THREE QUEENS and DEAF AS A POST started here.  “Rosamund Gravelle, submitted a ten-minute extract and we got to know her and her situation as a writer,” explains Willems, “she’d never had anything put on through lots of circumstances, now we’re working on her first full length play.” 

 

The pair really care about the afterlife of a show and keep in touch with companies. “If we see an opportunity of a funding grant or other opportunities, we drop them an email to say this might be of interest to you” explains Willems. They also have a chat after each show  (Willems has dubbed them ‘Postmortems’, much to Bacica’s disgust.)  It’s a policy which means that many companies return with work. JUST A REGULAR HOUSE is coming back in the Autumn. “We see glimpses of solid quality and we’re pleased that they chose us as their sort of playground” says Willems. 

 

The theatre has seen everything from a nonverbal bubble show (“which was incredibly theatrical”), to revivals. “What I’ve learnt” says Willems, "is that the space is much more of a flexible platform than I thought it was: it can be the fells of Cumbria, a Tudor palace, it’s just as epic as your imagination.”  She continues: "It is more about inviting audiences into the stories whether hyper-theatrical or hyper-real.  As for the four pillars which surround the playing area, visiting companies now see so much more scope, sometimes needing less lighting and using it as an architectural space."

 

Final words go to Willems. “I don’t see people in terms of their ethnicity or representation, I just see them as people and as individuals.”   Willems and Bacica are very approachable, the door is always open.


Full details of THREE QUEENS and other shows at Barons Court Theatre can be found here.

 

Sharon Willems and Leo Bacica were chatting with Heather Jeffery, Editor of LPT magazine

April 2024

THEATRE PROFILE

 

Barons Court Theatre

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28a Comeragh Road ,

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IN A NUTSHELL


The 52-seat Barons Court Theatre has been entertaining London with new writing and reimagined classics since 1991. Under new management since November 2021, the theatre has plans to expand its programming to more eclectic tastes. It is also reaching out to the local community both to cater to potential audiences and also to encourage collaborations.

 


LOCATION


Barons Court Theatre is just a short walk from both Barons Court and West Kensington stations making it one of West London top off West End destinations.

 


PRODUCTIONS


Under new management since November 2021, the theatre has plans to expand its programming to more eclectic tastes from cabaret to musicals, comedy to reimagined classics and beyond. It’s also likely to have particular emphasis on works in translation, international artists and featuring new stories from underrepresented groups. 

 


THE PUB


West London’s place to be for both locals and theatre-goers alike. The large windows flood the pub with natural light in the stylish interior of this dog friendly pub with terrace tables available to enjoy on a Summer’s day. The menu combines creative seasonal dishes with more traditional pub favourites; all made using the very best of British ingredients. With plenty of outstanding ales, wines and cocktails, Mario and the team cannot wait to welcome you.

 


VALUE ADDED


NHS audiences go free or at discounted prices. Contact the venue for details.

 


DID YOU KNOW …

 

The Barons Court Theatre was founded in 1991 by Ron Phillips (Artistic Director) and Christian Deal (Executive director) until 2021. Prior to founding Barons Court Theatre, Ron was club secretary of Queens Park Rangers 1966 – 1989, when QPR won the third division Championship.

With great kindness and leadership Ron gave countless opportunities to emerging and early career artists during his tenure. Without his steadfast commitment, Barons Court Theatre may not have existed today.

RON PHILLIPS sadly passed away April 2023


Amy Winehouse, Eddie Redmayne, Sarah Kestelman, Sheila Atim and Amy Molloy are but a few of the artists who presented their work at the Barons Court Theatre as emerging artists.

 

In 2021 Barons Court Theatre appointed Sharon Willem as Artistic Director and Leo Basica as Executive Director. They are both also founding members of Kibo Productions.

 

Curtains Up Pub is owned by Young’s Brewery


Interview with incoming Artistic Director Sharon Willems 2021


Willems is keeping the door open for conversations with artists. You will find her in ‘her office’ (in the pub) with a pot of tea watching the dogs or enjoying a Sunday roast in this super friendly venue. “It’s a new beginning” says Willems.

 


Sharon Willems became Artistic Director of Barons Court theatre at the end of 2021, succeeding Ron Phillips who held the post since the founding of the theatre in 1991. She is joined in her appointment by new Executive Director Leo Bacica. The pair run independent theatre company Kibo Productions and will continue to create work at Barons Court Theatre and beyond.

 

Willems built a relationship with Barons Court through her work as the Artistic Director of Kibo. “I got a call randomly last year” explains the delighted Willems. It all started in 2013 when she brought ‘Love Hate and Human Rights’ to Barons Court. It was a theatrical response to Russian Article 6.21 and other Human Rights concerns Worldwide, with a cut of the box office takings being donated to Amnesty International. The event featured eight plays showcasing emerging artists. 

 

Kibo’s continued connection with Barons Court resulted in an invitation (from outgoing theatre manager Chris Deal and Young’s Brewery) to run the Theatre. Willems is particularly interested in “works in translation” and international artists who are “finding their way into theatre in the UK.” There is a real international flavour to Kibo. Willems’ father is from the Caribbean, although most of her formative years were spent in Atlanta. Kibo also has strong connections to Romanian culture, not least because Bacica is Romanian but also because the Romanian Institute is close to the theatre. The pair are keen to establish a relationship with their local community. Willems reels off a list of some of their neighbours including Grenada High Commission, Queens Tennis Club and LAMDA Drama School.  Willems is working out “how to collaborate with other groups and community groups, thinking about audiences and what they want to see.” Also working out how to include families with young children. “We’re talking with parents about the timing of shows so they can come and see things” she explains. She also mentions that she is personally very keen to offer NHS free tickets or discounts where possible, because her mother was a nurse but also because she had Covid.  “I was sick in hospital in intensive care during the first wave in 2020, and the NHS literally saved my life” she says with much gratitude. 

 

Willems studied dramaturgy at the prestigious Theatre School at DePaul University in Chicago. ‘’It’s a highly competitive program in the States’’ explains Willems “Chicago has a wonderful theatre scene” she adds. Following her degree she took a job teaching English in Japan. “At 22, I didn’t feel as though I knew enough about the world to make art about it, and I wanted to learn about other cultures.”  She also taught herself Japanese. Willems clearly has a talent for languages which she says might have begun in her early years when she picked up papiamento while living in her father’s home country Aruba in the Caribbean. She can understand some Spanish, and she’s also learning French. 

 

Following the months of uncertainty due to Covid, Willems believes that many “artists are feeling completely at sea, not knowing whether there is a place for them in the industry.” She is keen to make a safe space for them at Barons Court Theatre. “If they have a story, it doesn’t matter whether they’ve trained or not trained, and it doesn’t need to be the way that I see theatre” says Willems. She is keeping an open mind about that, particularly as she is also “exploring the space at Barons Court and finding out about its potential” herself. Her own tastes in theatre are very specific.   “As a woman, it’s important to open up spaces for people like me; immigrants, women, people from other cultures” says Willems. 

 

Kibo creates intimate political theatre from unheard voices from around the world.  In November 2021 they produced a script in hand reading of Maryland by Lucy Kirkwood at Barons Court, hot on the trail of its premiere at the Royal Court in October 2021. It was written following the murder of Sabina Nessa and the rape and murder of Sarah Everard. Kibo used this as an opportunity to raise money for Solace Woman’s Aid, a Leeds based charity which provides psychotherapy and support to the survivors of persecution and exile.


Kibo also staged a production of Tea Set by Gina Moxley (at Edinburgh Festival & Chelsea Theatre) working with Age Scotland and the Silver Line. The play is about an elderly woman who is raped and the carer who looks after her. It shows the impact on the woman and on her carer’s mental health after hearing her story. “Women are not historically given gender parity and it certainly is a focus of ours as a company” says Willems. “That’s not to say we don’t programme cishet men but we do our best to ensure we’re not just hitting one side or the other.” 

 

The programme at Barons Court will create new opportunities for early career and underrepresented artists. Recently, they hosted a collective of neurodivergent artists looking for a space to meet and make work. “We’re offering them space to enable them to decide what kind of work they want to make” explains Willems. The theatre also offers a fair financial model to companies that stage work with them. “Our hope is that this will create an inclusive, collaborative and welcoming space for artists and our local community at Barons Court” says Willems. It’s also on her agenda to make sure that artists with children are not excluded.  “If an actor has a young child and is struggling with childcare, I’m happy for the child to be in the dressing room, for example. We need to think creatively sometimes if we want to break down barriers”  Other help that they plan to offer is supporting funding applications and they aim to find investors, “people who care about the same things as we do” so that they can “do more things.”

 

In these days of concerns about sustainability and accessibility, Kibo is considering how they can upgrade the theatre space itself. They are keen to change the lights to LED lights which use less electricity and last much longer. Eventually they hope to replace the fixed seats to “make it easier to get in and out of” and to make the space “more flexible for theatre companies”.

 

Currently they have two shows coming up, Marlowe’s FAUSTUS THE DAMNED and DUCKS by Hannah Kennedy. The first is planned to coincide with Marlowe’s birthday.  DUCKS is an in-house show produced by Kibo planned for 15 – 19 February.  A Playwriting Course is planned for March with many more events in the pipeline including a ‘Sunday Fix’ for new writers. “It will allow writers to see bits of new writing and to feel less isolated” suggests Willems. It is also certain that the venue will be featuring cabaret as Executive Director Leo Bacica has worked as a technician for two decades and was resident technician at Cafe de Paris until 2020. He is very passionate about bringing international theatre in front of British audiences, with a strong focus on his native Romania. 

 

Finally, the last word must go to Willems who is tremendously proud to be entering this new phase of her career.  She expands on this: “I didn’t know anyone when I first arrived here. I started out volunteering, working for free with companies. I’m proud of the shows I’ve made and relationships I’ve built, and now I’m in a position to help other artists. It is a great place to be. I’ve survived covid and survived the ins and outs of the industry. Now I can be a force for good.”

 

The full programme of shows at Barons Court Theatre can be viewed here https://www.baronscourttheatre.com/what-s-on

 

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